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Post by lukas samuel miller on Aug 30, 2010 20:04:04 GMT -5
Okay so If you were not aware, I love halloween. Every halloween I make a compliation of scary youtube videos, pictures, evps, the whole nine yards. Well, I usually share them with my friends, but this year, all of you get to see it too.
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Post by hannah india hollis on Aug 30, 2010 20:49:25 GMT -5
I LOVE HALLOWEEN!!!!!!!!! except i'm jumpier than a crack addict when i think about ghosts.
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Post by JOEY ?! on Aug 30, 2010 21:27:38 GMT -5
YAYY! I LOVE HALLOWEEEEEEEEN! >_> I still dress up. But its totallly mu favorite holiday. I love how creepy everything is. (:
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Post by hannah india hollis on Aug 30, 2010 21:30:04 GMT -5
i still go trick or treating!!!! when i'm drunk
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Post by lukas samuel miller on Sept 3, 2010 11:19:54 GMT -5
Alright kids, first video!! Now just a warning, at 40 seconds something weird happens. It isn't scary, just...weird.
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Post by lukas samuel miller on Sept 3, 2010 12:38:10 GMT -5
The next video is a compliation of pictures someone got together. Any thoughts on them? I want discussion peeps.
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Post by dimitri axel sakalov on Sept 3, 2010 16:06:00 GMT -5
28 seconds in is a clip from a movie. Can't remember what, but that's a movie clip. On that first video.
On the second, quite a few just look like people, not even ghosts. The music was disturbing though ... there were a couple that were rather odd.
I've got my own personal ghost experience.
A friend of mine lives in a very old house, and she swears on the bible her house is haunted. Well, we'd seen some funny shadows but nothing very convincing until she told me her little sister's room was the most severely haunted. Later, by myself (Jenn was upstairs in her room) I had gone downstairs to get something and glanced into the room. Now note, this room has no windows, and there were no lights save a dim one from the hall I was standing in. There were no windows directly behind me, or in any places that would have produced any kind of reflection, etc.
It'd seen some shadows in this room before, but this time there was the definite shadow of a tall boy or young man sitting in the chair, one arm on the arm of the chair and the other on his knees. He disappeared shortly after. Later, the ghost (whom we named Nicholas) was there again, fainter but definitely there. A cat sat on the arm of the chair, and as I watched it must have grown startled, for it ran up the back of the chair and vanished, as if into the wall. Jenn owns two cats, and both live outside. Her mother goes apeshit if one even crosses the door step, so I know it wasn't one of her cats.
Explanations, anyone?
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Post by murdoc taylor arliss on Sept 3, 2010 16:40:19 GMT -5
That was no ghost, love. That was me. ;)
...Kidding. I'm not even that creepy.
But when I was in high school, I hit my friend's cat accidentally with my car. And that night I swear there was a cat sleeping at the foot of my bed, except I didn't have a cat and the dog's bigger than I am and not cat-like at all. jsjs
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Post by lukas samuel miller on Sept 3, 2010 17:56:52 GMT -5
Yeah the lady under the bed picture is from a Thai horror movie called either "The Mother" or "The Unborn". The woman under the bed is Thai actress Woravit Kaewphet. I totally didn't notice they slipped that one in.
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Post by murdoc taylor arliss on Sept 3, 2010 18:29:22 GMT -5
To be honest, when I saw that, I had to check under my bed, just in case......
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Post by dimitri axel sakalov on Sept 11, 2010 18:23:28 GMT -5
LOL thats what it is. I knew I recognized it, anyway.
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Post by lukas samuel miller on Sept 16, 2010 21:15:46 GMT -5
Okay guys, this is a local mystery around where I'm from. It isn't really scary, but it's facinating.
IN A NONDESCRIPT section of the Salt Lake City Cemetery lies a small gravestone that bears an inscription so unusual that it has for years aroused curiosity, rumor, speculation – even fear – within those who have encountered it. While surrounding grave markers are inscribed with such common inscriptions as “devoted mother,” “beloved husband” or simply “in loving memory,” the gravestone of Lily E. Gray is inscribed with the mysterious and highly provocative phrase: “Victim of the Beast 666.” This is an allusion, of course, to the New Testament’s Book of Revelation, 13th chapter, which has been interpreted to refer to the Antichrist:
And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.... And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six [666]. “The Beast” and “666” have henceforth become synonymous with Satan and the Antichrist.
Why, then, when other gravestones are inscribed with loving tributes, is Lily Gray’s engraved with this dark, enigmatic message? What does it mean? In what way was she a victim of the Beast? Who chose this unnerving inscription for her eternal resting place?
These questions and more have been the crux of the mystery surrounding Lily Gray’s grave for decades in Salt Lake City. No one seems to know what it means. And few have bothered to investigate to find out.
No one has done more to try to unravel the mystery, perhaps, than Richelle Hawks. A long-time resident of Salt Lake, Richelle has dug deeper than anyone to find out what the inscription might mean. “Salt Lake City is home of the massive LDS (Latter-day Saints)-operated Family History Library, and the world's geneaological research mecca,” says Richelle on her Cemetery Legends website. “Since the stone's erection in 1958, no one has dug deeply enough to uncover even a minimal account of Lily Gray's life and the origins of the inscription. When confronted with apparent true lunacy, evil, religious fervor, abuse, or implausible as it may be, ultimate victimhood at the hands of Satan (as the stone literally implies) do we collectively turn our heads?”
The investigation
Scouring the Internet and local records, Richelle has uncovered several fascinating clues about the meaning of the inscription. But her research has also produced additional mysteries. The engraving on the stone, for example, is inaccurate.
“There are several discrepancies between the information on her gravemaker and the information contained in records,” Richelle says. “Although I am relying on Internet sources for the obituary information regarding the spelling of her name and her birth date, the cemetery sexton's records confirm the single ‘L’ in her first name, and the birth date of June 4th, 1880, opposed to the stone's version of June 6, 1881.”
How is it that Lily’s name was incorrectly spelled “Lilly” on the gravestone? Simply an engraver’s error? But what about the birth date? Was it purposely changed from June 4 to June 6 to reinforce the 666 reference?
Lily’s brief obituary cites her death at age 77 (or 78, depending on which birth date is correct) from “natural causes.” So there doesn’t seem to have been any foul play in her victimhood, at least that directly caused her death.
So how was poor Lily a “victim of the Beast”? In fact, who says she was? Who requested that epitaph? Was it Lily herself? Her husband, Elmer? Other members of her family or friends?
Richelle has discovered interesting information about Elmer Gray and his background that may yield clues about his nature and his relationship with Lily. “Her husband, Elmer Lewis Gray, whom Edith married when she was 72 years old, may have been incarcerated before their marriage,” says Richelle. “I have found records for an Elmer L. Gray's ‘Criminal Pardons Application’ in 1947. I have also found a 1901 Ogden Standard newspaper clipping in which a man named Elmer Gray was arrested and sentenced to ‘five days on the rockpile’ for stealing an umbrella valued at $3.50, from the Paine and Hurst Company. I have no way of knowing if this is the same Elmer Gray, but the date and his age seems to fit.”
Although these records suggest that Elmer Gray (if it is the same man) was only a petty criminal, could he be the “beast” to whom Lily fell victim? Interestingly, Elmer’s grave can be found in the same cemetery – but in a plot far from his wife’s.
Cemetery symbolism
Further clues in this grave mystery might be found in the decoration on both Lily’s and Elmer’s tombstones. “Douglas Keister's wonderful book, Stories in Stone: A Field Guide to Cemetery Symbolism and Iconography contains a section on foliage and flowers,” Richelle says, “and the flower on Lily's grave is clearly an evening primrose.”
According to Keisler, the evening primrose has several meanings when used on tombstones, including eternal love, youth, memory, hope, and sadness. Perhaps, however, more symbolism can be construed from the primrose’s nickname: Devil's lantern.
The carved floral adornment on Elmer’s stone could be just as telling. “They are clearly daffodils, otherwise known as Narcissus,” Richelle has found. “According to Keister's book, the daffodil as used in funerary art can have the negative connotations associated with narcissism of vanity and self-love. It could also indicate triumph over these qualities, thus representing divine love and sacrifice. Either way, it is quite interesting that the Narcissus was chosen for Elmer's grave.”
Investigation continues
The probe into the meaning behind “Victim of the Beast 666” is far from over. In fact, although she has had more success than any other researcher into this mystery, Richelle believes she has only scratched the surface. Research into this case has proved difficult, but she is certain that someone out there must have some insight about the inscription – family members, people who knew the couple, neighbors, employers.
Finding the truth will, perhaps, establish finally that Lily was not a victim of the Beast at all, but only of a notorious and cruel epitaph. If she was a victim in life, we’re sure she now rests in peace.
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